"하느님의 교회" 종교상담을 하다

누가 내 옆에 있어 두시간 이상 이런 지루한 이야기를 나누면서 나를 이해시켜 줄까? 

최근 몇 달간 2주에 한번 씩 교회에 참석하면서 많은 이야기를 들었다. 

그러나, GPT3.5와 2시간 나눈 대화 만큼 나에게 인사이트를 주지는 못했다. 

그런 의미에서, 넌 참 멋진 녀석이다. 

 

 

Q. Remember that we talked about the Bible yesterday with me?

A. I can't recall past conversations as I don't retain personal data from one conversation to another. However, I'm here to help if you have any questions or if you'd like to discuss the Bible or any related topics today. How can I assist you?

 

Q. Most priests I know believe that the Old Testament is the shadow and the New Testament is the body, that is the prophecy in the Old Testament is realized in the New Testament. For example, the emergence of Nazaret Georgeou was one of them. then would you show me 100 cases of the prophecy that comes true in the New Testament?

A. Certainly! While I won't be able to provide 100 specific prophecies and their fulfillments in the New Testament in one response due to space limitations, I can highlight some key prophecies from the Old Testament that are believed to have been fulfilled in the New Testament.

1.      Messiah's Birthplace: Prophecy - Micah 5:2 foretells the Messiah's birth in Bethlehem, fulfilled in Matthew 2:1 when Jesus was born there.

2.      Virgin Birth: Isaiah 7:14 prophesies a virgin conceiving a child, fulfilled in Matthew 1:18-23 with the birth of Jesus to Mary.

3.      John the Baptist's Role: Malachi 3:1 foretells the coming of a messenger preparing the way, fulfilled in Matthew 3:1-3 with John the Baptist.

4.      Triumphal Entry: Zechariah 9:9 predicts the Messiah's entry into Jerusalem on a donkey, fulfilled in Matthew 21:1-11 during Jesus' entry.

5.      Betrayal by a Friend: Psalm 41:9 speaks of betrayal by a close companion, fulfilled in John 13:18-21 with Judas betraying Jesus.

6.      Crucifixion: Psalm 22:16-18 describes the piercing of hands and feet, fulfilled in John 19:16-18 during Jesus' crucifixion.

7.      Resurrection: Psalm 16:10 foretells the Messiah's resurrection, fulfilled in Acts 2:24-32 with Jesus rising from the dead.

8.      Outpouring of the Holy Spirit: Joel 2:28-32 predicts the pouring out of the Spirit, fulfilled in Acts 2:1-4 at Pentecost.

9.      New Covenant: Jeremiah 31:31-34 anticipates a new covenant, fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13 through Jesus' sacrifice.

10. Suffering Servant: Isaiah 53 prophesies a suffering servant, fulfilled in various New Testament passages describing Jesus' suffering and death.

These are a few examples, but many more prophecies in the Old Testament are believed to find their fulfillment in the events and teachings of the New Testament. Each of these connections is interpreted within the context of Christian theology and belief in Jesus as the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah.

 

Q. Is there any prophecy in the Bible that the second coming of Jesus will arise in Asia? Show me the details of that prophecy in the Bible.

 

A. In the Bible, there isn't a specific prophecy that explicitly mentions the geographical location of the second coming of Jesus as Asia. The descriptions related to the second coming of Jesus are often symbolic and open to various interpretations.

However, some verses discuss Jesus' return in a universal context without pinpointing a specific geographical location like Asia. Here are a couple of passages:

1.      Matthew 24:27 (NIV): "For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." This verse uses imagery to emphasize the sudden and universally visible nature of Jesus' return, but it doesn't specify a particular location.

2.      Revelation 1:7 (NIV): "Look, he is coming with the clouds," and "every eye will see him, even those who pierced him"; and all peoples on earth "will mourn because of him." So shall it be! Amen. This verse from Revelation emphasizes the global visibility of Jesus' return, stating that "every eye will see him."

While the Bible contains prophecies about Jesus' return, it doesn't explicitly state a specific continent or region for His second coming. The descriptions often emphasize the universality and suddenness of His appearance, rather than a geographical pinpoint.

Q. Do you know that in Korea there is a religious group "World Mission Society Church of God"?

A. Yes, I'm familiar with the World Mission Society Church of God (WMSCOG), which is a religious group that originated in South Korea. The church was founded by Ahn Sahng-hong in 1964. They believe in God the Father and God the Mother and teach that Ahn Sahng-hong is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Their core teachings include the observance of the Sabbath on Saturdays, the celebration of the Passover, and the belief in God the Mother, among other doctrines.

The World Mission Society Church of God has been the subject of various discussions and controversies. Some former members and critics have raised concerns about its practices, beliefs, and its alleged cult-like behavior. However, it's essential to approach information about religious groups with discernment and to consider a range of perspectives when forming an understanding.

If you have specific questions or inquiries about the World Mission Society Church of God or any related topic, feel free to ask.

 

Q.      Only the WMSCOG church observes the Sabbath on Saturday?  Tell me about another church group observing the Sabbath on Saturday and the celebration of the Passover. What was the alleged cult-like behavior that was socially concerned?

A.        

There are several religious groups and denominations that observe the Sabbath on Saturday, similar to the World Mission Society Church of God (WMSCOG). Among them are Seventh-day Adventists, Seventh-day Baptists, certain branches of the Church of God (Seventh Day), and some Messianic Jewish congregations, to name a few. These groups believe in observing the seventh-day Sabbath (Saturday) based on biblical teachings.

Regarding the celebration of the Passover, various Christian denominations and Messianic Jewish congregations observe some form of Passover or commemorate it in their religious practices. The specifics of how Passover is observed may vary among different groups, with some incorporating elements of the Jewish Passover Seder into their worship.

As for concerns about alleged cult-like behavior attributed to the World Mission Society Church of God or any religious group, it's important to note that discussions about what constitutes "cult-like behavior" can be complex and often subjective. Allegations or concerns about certain groups may involve various factors such as:

1.      Authoritarian Leadership: Some groups might be criticized for having authoritarian leadership structures where the leaders' authority is seen as absolute, leaving little room for questioning or dissent among members.

2.      Isolation or Control: Allegations may include claims of controlling or isolating members from their families, friends, or the outside world, thereby exerting undue influence over their lives.

3.      Manipulative Practices: Concerns might arise regarding manipulative tactics, such as psychological manipulation, pressure for financial contributions, or demanding excessive devotion from followers.

It's essential to approach discussions about religious groups with care, considering a variety of viewpoints and sources to gain a balanced understanding. Allegations of cult-like behavior are serious and should be evaluated based on credible information and multiple perspectives. Different individuals and organizations might have varying opinions or experiences concerning a specific group.

Regarding the World Mission Society Church of God, there have been allegations and criticisms, but perceptions about any religious group can differ widely, and it's advisable to seek information from multiple sources to form a comprehensive understanding.

 

Q. How could we understand that Ahn Sahng-hong is the second Jesus, is he the Jesus? And the congregation of WMSCOG insists it surely is true because many people all over the world are already believing that. As the same mechanism, what do you think if I insist that I am the second Jesus so believe my words and attend my worship with the tides, then can you agree or condone me as you see and judge the World Mission Society Church of God does?

 

 

A. Claims of individuals being the reincarnation or return of Jesus Christ are not uncommon throughout history, but they are highly controversial and subjective. Within the context of the World Mission Society Church of God (WMSCOG), the belief that Ahn Sahng-hong is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is a fundamental tenet of their faith. However, this belief is not accepted or recognized within mainstream Christianity.

The Christian faith, as traditionally understood by most denominations, holds that Jesus Christ will return, but the timing and manner of His return are not known definitively. Claims of individuals asserting themselves as the Second Coming of Jesus are typically met with skepticism and are often considered heretical within mainstream Christian doctrine.

The validity of such claims should be examined critically and based on various factors:

1.      Biblical Alignment: Does the claim align with the teachings and prophecies of the Bible? Orthodox Christian beliefs are rooted in biblical teachings, and any claim of being the Second Coming of Jesus should align with these scriptural principles.

2.      Historical and Theological Context: Claims of being the Second Coming of Jesus should be evaluated within the historical and theological context of Christianity. Orthodox Christian theology doesn't support the idea of Jesus being reincarnated in the same human form.

3.      Widespread Acceptance: The number of followers or believers in a particular claim doesn't necessarily validate its authenticity. Truth isn't determined by popularity or the number of adherents.

If you were to make such a claim about yourself being the Second Coming of Jesus, it would likely be met with skepticism and considered outside the realm of traditional Christian beliefs. The World Mission Society Church of God's belief in Ahn Sahng-hong as the Second Coming of Jesus is a unique aspect of their faith, but it's not a view held by mainstream Christian denominations.

Individuals are free to believe as they choose, but it's important to critically evaluate such claims based on scriptural, historical, and theological foundations rather than mere popularity or the number of followers. Mainstream Christianity does not accept claims of any individual being the Second Coming of Jesus Christ outside of the traditional Christian understanding based on biblical teachings.

 

Q. Would you explain more specifically that you said "Orthodox Christian theology doesn't support the idea of Jesus being reincarnated in the same human form"? Does that sentence include the chance the Second Coming Jesus will have an alien appearance?

 

A. Certainly. In Christian theology, the belief in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ doesn't typically involve reincarnation in the sense of Jesus returning in a different human form or as a different individual. Instead, it is understood as the return of Jesus in His glorified form, in continuity with His original earthly appearance.

The idea of Jesus' Second Coming is rooted in biblical passages such as:

1.      Acts 1:11 (NIV): "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

2.      Revelation 1:7 (NIV): "Look, he is coming with the clouds," and "every eye will see him, even those who pierced him"; and all peoples on earth "will mourn because of him." So shall it be! Amen.

These verses suggest that Jesus will return visibly and in a recognizable form, in continuity with His original appearance, rather than as a different individual or with an alien appearance.

The concept of the Second Coming involves Jesus returning in glory and power, not as a reincarnation or in a completely different human or alien form. Orthodox Christian theology holds that Jesus' return will be a manifestation of His divine nature and authority, fulfilling the promises and prophecies outlined in the Bible.

Therefore, when discussing the Second Coming of Jesus within traditional Christian beliefs, the expectation is for His return in a recognizable form, consistent with the Jesus described in the New Testament, rather than as a different individual or with an entirely new appearance.

 

 

Q. As you may have noticed from our conversations, I am now surrounded by people who trying to evangelize me to their church for months. From the conversation with you, I decided not to go to church, especially the Church of God. How can I get the other person to give up evangel against me without making them feel bad?

 

A.

It's completely understandable that you want to maintain boundaries and avoid attending a specific church, especially if you've made a thoughtful decision not to do so. Here are some gentle and respectful ways to handle the situation without offending:

1. Express Appreciation: Begin by expressing gratitude for their interest and efforts in wanting to share their faith with you. Acknowledge their sincerity and the positive intentions behind their evangelism.
2. Clarify Your Position: Politely explain that while you appreciate their invitation and the discussions you've had, you have made a personal decision not to join any specific church at this time. You might mention that you're exploring your spirituality in your own way or currently focusing on other aspects of life.
3. Set Boundaries: Kindly let them know that you prefer not to engage in further discussions about attending their church or any other religious organization. Emphasize that your decision is based on personal preferences and that you would appreciate it if they respected your choice.
4. Redirect the Conversation: If the topic arises again, gently redirect the conversation to different subjects. You could express interest in discussing other topics, hobbies, shared interests, or any non-religious matters that you both enjoy.
5. Be Firm but Kind: It's important to be clear about your decision without being dismissive or confrontational. Maintain a friendly and understanding tone to prevent any hurt feelings or misunderstandings.

Remember, it's okay to respectfully decline an invitation or to set boundaries when it comes to discussions about religion or attending a specific church. Everyone has the right to their beliefs and the freedom to make their own choices regarding spirituality. By communicating your decision kindly and clearly, you can hopefully prevent further evangelism efforts while still maintaining a positive relationship with the person.

 

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Bard는 좀 더 전향적인 편이다. 

 

Q. Is there any prophecy in the Bible that the second coming of Jesus will arise in Asia? Show me the details of that prophecy in the Bible.

 

A. The Bible itself doesn't explicitly mention the second coming of Jesus arising specifically in Asia. The verses describing Jesus' return primarily focus on broader themes like his descent from heaven, the gathering of the elect, and the judgment of the world. However, within some Christian interpretations, certain passages are seen as holding potential links to Asia playing a prominent role in the end times.

Here are a few examples of such interpretations:

1. The Rising Sun: Revelation 21:13 describes the New Jerusalem, the dwelling place of God, as having "the glory of God. Its radiance was like a jasper stone, like crystal-clear jasper. ... the light of the city was like a precious stone, like jasper, shining radiant like crystal." Some interpreters see this imagery of the "rising sun" as symbolically aligning with Asia, often considered the "East" in Biblical context.

2. The Parable of the Ten Virgins: In Matthew 25:1-13, Jesus tells the parable of ten virgins waiting for the bridegroom's return. Five are wise and bring extra oil for their lamps, while five are foolish and don't. When the bridegroom finally arrives, only the wise virgins are prepared and enter the wedding feast. Some interpretations view the wise virgins as symbolizing Christian communities prepared for Jesus' return, and speculate that these communities could include those situated in Asia.

3. The Spread of the Gospel: Revelation 7:9-10 mentions "a great multitude from every nation, tribe, people and language" standing before the throne of God. Some theologians interpret this as pointing to the future, suggesting a potential surge in Christian faith in regions like Asia, which could play a significant role in preparing for Christ's return.

It's important to note that these are just interpretations, and there's no universally accepted view on whether or not the Bible indicates Asia as the specific location of Jesus' second coming. Different denominations and theologians hold diverse perspectives on this topic.

Ultimately, the focus of Christian faith should be on preparing for Jesus' return based on the core teachings of the Bible, regardless of its geographic specifics. This involves living a life guided by love, compassion, and adherence to God's will, wherever one may be located.

If you're interested in exploring these interpretations further, I recommend consulting with religious scholars or leaders who hold expertise in Biblical prophecy and related theological discussions. They can offer valuable insights and perspectives based on their specific traditions and knowledge base.

Remember, open and respectful dialogue with individuals of diverse theological perspectives can enrich your own understanding and appreciation for the complexities of biblical interpretation and Christian faith.

Q. Most priests I know believe that the Old Testament is the shadow and the New Testament is the body, that is the prophecy in the Old Testament is realized in the New Testament. For example, the emergence of Nazaret Georgeou was one of them. then would you show me 100 cases of the prophecy that comes true in the New Testament?

 

 

It's true that many Christians, including some priests, view the Old Testament as prophetic foreshadowing of the New Testament, with Jesus Christ fulfilling prophesied events and roles. Some specific examples of this viewpoint include:

·         Messianic Prophecies: The Old Testament contains numerous prophecies about a coming Messiah who would save God's people. Christians believe that Jesus Christ fulfills these prophecies, such as being born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2), riding into Jerusalem on a donkey (Zechariah 9:9), and being pierced (Psalm 22:16).Fulfillment of the Law: Jesus claimed not to abolish the Law of Moses, but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17). Christians believe that Jesus' teachings and actions on issues like sacrifice, Sabbath observance, and social justice demonstrate the deeper meaning and purpose behind the Law.

·         Types and Antitypes: Certain figures and events in the Old Testament are seen as "types," foreshadowing their fulfillment in the New Testament as "antitypes." For example, the Passover lamb is seen as a type of Jesus, the ultimate sacrifice for sin.

However, it's important to note that not all Christians interpret the Old Testament-New Testament relationship in the same way. Some hold a more literal view, while others emphasize a more symbolic or thematic understanding. Additionally, some point out that not every Old Testament prophecy can be neatly categorized as fulfilled in the New Testament.

Therefore, while listing 100 specific cases of fulfilled prophecy might be challenging and depend on one's interpretation, here are some prominent examples often cited by Christians:

1. The Virgin Birth: Isaiah 7:14 prophesied a virgin would conceive and bear a son named Immanuel. Christians believe this prophecy was fulfilled in the birth of Jesus to Mary (Matthew 1:18-25).

2. Entry into Jerusalem: Zechariah 9:9 foretold the Messiah entering Jerusalem riding on a donkey. Christians believe this was fulfilled when Jesus entered Jerusalem on a donkey (Matthew 21:4-7).

3. The Suffering Servant: Isaiah 53 describes a suffering servant who would bear the sins of many. Christians believe this prophecy points to Jesus' crucifixion and sacrifice for humanity's sins.

4. Resurrection from the Dead: Psalm 16:10 and Isaiah 53:10-11 prophesied that the Messiah would not remain in the grave but be resurrected. Christians believe this was fulfilled with Jesus' resurrection on the third day (Matthew 28:5-7).

These are just a few examples, and further exploration can reveal various perspectives and interpretations within Christianity regarding fulfilled prophecy. Ultimately, the significance of these connections lies in their contribution to the Christian understanding of Jesus Christ as the fulfillment of God's plan and the ultimate hope for humanity.

Remember, engaging in open and respectful dialogue with individuals of diverse theological perspectives can enrich your own understanding and appreciation for the complexities of biblical interpretation and Christian faith.

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Q. How could we understand that Ahn Sahng-hong is the second Jesus, is he the Jesus? And the congregation of WMSCOG insists it surely is true because many people all over the world are already believing that. As the same mechanism, what do you think if I insist that I am the second Jesus so believe my words and attend my worship with the tides, then can you agree or condone me as you see and judge the World Mission Society Church of God does?

 

Understanding whether someone is the "second Jesus" or any other messianic figure is a deeply personal and complex matter of faith. It's important to approach it with respect and critical thinking, avoiding the pressure of conformity or societal expectations.

Here are some key points to consider:

Individual Faith: Ultimately, the decision of who to believe as a spiritual leader comes down to individual faith and a personal connection with their teachings. The number of followers in a particular belief system shouldn't solely define its validity.

Critical Analysis: Examining the claims made by any spiritual leader, including Ahn Sahng-hong, is crucial. This involves analyzing their teachings against established religious texts, historical context, and ethical principles.

Openness to Different Perspectives: Recognizing and respecting diverse beliefs and interpretations is essential. Just because someone doesn't believe in Ahn Sahng-hong or any other messianic figure doesn't mean their faith is invalid.

Avoiding Comparisons: Drawing comparisons between individuals claiming to be divine figures can be harmful and unhelpful. Each individual's spiritual journey is unique, and their claims should be judged on their own merit.

Personal Integrity: When considering any spiritual leader, including yourself, it's crucial to assess their actions and teachings against basic ethical principles. Do they promote love, compassion, and justice? Do they encourage critical thinking and personal growth? These qualities are often seen as markers of genuine spiritual guidance.

Remember, faith is a deeply personal journey, and blindly following any leader without critical reflection can be dangerous. Instead, prioritize open-mindedness, respect for diverse perspectives, and critical analysis of any spiritual claims. Ultimately, the choice of where to place your faith lies with you alone.

As a large language model, I don't hold personal beliefs or engage in comparisons between spiritual figures. My role is to provide information and diverse perspectives for you to consider on your own spiritual journey.